Better Call Saul is now over after six seasons on AMC, but how did it all begin? Of course, we all know that the series is a spinoff of the hit show Breaking Bad, created by Vince Gilligan. Gilligan, who also co-created Better Call Saul with Peter Gould, spoke about both shows in a new interview for The Rich Eisen Show. During the conversation, Gilligan discussed how exactly Better Call Saul came to be.

As Gilligan explains, the idea for the spinoff had actually come about as a joke very soon after Bob Odenkirk debuted as Saul Goodman in the second season of Breaking Bad. As Odenkirk had been doing so well with the character, a crew member had jokingly remarked about a “Saul Goodman spinoff,” and while everyone laughed it off at the time, the concept always resonated with Gilligan and Gould.

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As Breaking Bad drew closer to its ending, Gilligan and Gould only grew more confident in doing their Better Call Saul spinoff series. The only issue was that they weren’t quite sure what to do with it beyond having the series focus on Saul Goodman. In fact, even by the time Gilligan and Gould had signed on to do the spinoff with AMC, they still were working things out creatively. Gilligan says how the series was first envisioned as a half-hour comedy series that would make light of the kooky criminals that seek Saul’s services at his law office. There could have even been name comedians brought in to play some of these characters.

Better Call Saul May Be the End of the Breaking Bad Universe

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There had been thoughts of doing Better Call Saul since season 2 of Breaking Bad, but it’s a different situation with the spinoff series ending. Gilligan and Gould, who were deep into their work on Better Call Saul when Breaking Bad ended, are not currently working on any more content related to Breaking Bad. Both plan to pursue new projects, but as Gilligan told Rich Eisen, there still remains a possibility that he might one day revisit that world, even if it’s not in the near future.

You can watch the full interview below.